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Date:Wednesday July 2 2008
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Sheard Takeover Edges Closer
A deal which would see Geoff Sheard and his consortium move in to the Hillsborough boardroom seems to be getting closer after Wednesdayite received a formal offer for their shares.
The fans' group have been in talks with Sheard for a number of weeks and have now received a formal offer, believed to be 20p per share, for their 10-per-cent plus shareholding at S6.
But a takeover at Hillsborough could still be weeks away, with Wednesdayite set to ballot their membership over the issue.
Sheard has already held a meeting with former Owls chairman Dave Allen about purchasing his shareholding in the club, and Wednesdayite chairman Darryl Keys believes that a deal could only be done if it's part of an overall deal that would see a party take complete control at S6.
He told the Sheffield Star: 'First we have sought advice from our lawyers to ensure that we adhere to legal procedures and subject to that we are happy to ballot our members and hopefully get the go-ahead for a sale.
'Obviously it would have to be part of an overall deal that gives control to another party; if someone was just acquiring our shares and nobody else's then we would just be shuffling deckchairs.'
But there is still a question mark over the purchasing of the 10-per-cent shares held by directors Geoff Hulley and Keith Addy, both of whom have denied meeting Sheard as yet.
But the move to purchase the shares of Wednesdayite show a clear intent from Sheard to get the takeover at S6 moving.
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its looking good!... s**t jinxed it... sorry
mansfieldowl
On the afternoon of Tuesday 1st July, Wednesdayite received a formal written bid for our shareholding from Geoff Sheard representing a Swiss based trust. We had earlier met with our legal advisers and the letter was immediately referred to them for their advice. We will act in accordance with any advice given with the full intention of proceeding to a member ballot on this issue.
With immediate effect and for the avoidance of doubt, only full members who were paid up prior to this notice are eligible to vote in any ballot. We will continue to accept memberships as normal but such memberships will not be eligible to vote in any ballot in respect of this bid.
Should the legal advice confirm that a member ballot can proceed as hoped, then at least 14 days notice must be given to members after we have ensured that we have prepared all the necessary paperwork. We estimate that the preparation will take around 7 working days.
mick66owl
Will wednesdayite ballot members on what to do with the funds they recieve if the deal is completed ? and what would be the options ??
Aston Owl
Keep dreaming, heard it all before!
sharpblades
2 true mr blunt however this might just happen! not counting my chickens. but progress has certainly been made, so who knows..................
owler
It's going to take time but it will happen!
will it ever happen
im more confident now just a case of bideing our time
Barton6435
This seems to have been going on forever, will the torture never end!!!!!! Little dramatic I know but just hope something happemns before the three weeks we'll have to wait for wednesdayite otherwise all decent plyers will have been snapped up!
cov_owl
true but we wont have 2 worry about other clubs making derisory offers for our players. we,ll be able to stump up good wages for the current squad, and top quality loan signings during the season plus bring in players in january which depending where we,re sitting in the table especially if the leagues as tight as last year could make all the difference for the run in!
owler
yawn yawn yawn change the record please.
bladesforlife1889
'wednesdayite' are a bunch of W@^k3rs, why is it going to take 3 weeks to complete a ballot ?? It should be organised and sorted in one week max! I agree with what dave allen said all along , complete waste of time, morons holding back the club
greeny9
januarys all well and good if you have had a average to good start to the season. If we start like we did last year thats another year in the champisionship
cov_owl
jealous are we now pfl and sharpblunt. or just plain worried that your reign of sheffields top (your words not ours)team is shortly going to be over .
all together now singing ;die die piggys, piggys die.
UP V OWLS
mick66owl
As a member of Wednesdayite I take exception to being called a *****er Greeney. But seeing how you seem to know so much, just how long do you think it takes to set up a ballot, because it certainly isnt a week. You have to get the members to vote and wait for all the members to cast their respective votes ? I think you will find that 3 weeks is a pretty good time scale for waiting for things to be sorted. Or is it case that you have nothing else better to do than slagging of people who are trying to do their best for the club. I think you need to get your facts straight before you start coming up with statements like that.
Skeggy Owl
but surely skeggy owl with all the recent speculation and media reports something could have been put into motion, this after all is not particularly new news. recent statements from wednesdayite seem a little like you are trying to flex your muscles a little to much. I just hope and pray for the sake of the club that wednesdayite are not the stumbling block, lets not forget the new season is also just a few weeks away...
mansfieldowl@home
isnt it funny lads - 2 signings in one day which are leaps and bounds better than yours already. dont you wish you could attract someone like halford who cost sunderland 3.5m last season. ha ha all good being red n white!!! the propper signings are on the way soon im sure!!
bladesforlife1889
yes one a loan for a player who got sent off more than he played in premier league and the other who wasnt good enough to go bavk to china
mick66owl
i think halford will do a dam good job or us mick. dont know what you think about it but the lads were saying laws is trying to bring in andy cole and is also interested in keith gillespie for 250k
bladesforlife1889
y r u here?
SWFCowl
not even woth responding to the above!! so mick if the takeover happens what do you think will happen regards to laws position as manager? will he stop or go? will there be money to spend straight away? how much taking into consideration everything?
bladesforlife1889
im sorry bfl are you chatting about greg halford! hahaha what a superb signing! if only we had a top drawer right back here at wednesday.........................oh thats right weve got the best in the league.
owler
i wouldnt say the best owler, but he is a talent and i'd have him at the lane tommorrow mate. the big question is can you keep him? i think not.
bladesforlife1889
i guess that,ll depend on whether this takeover, your so intrested in/terrified of, goes through doesn't it chap!
owler
greeny - what are you on mate?
Do you expect Wednesdayite to send out ballot forms, and give people about a day to fill them in before sending them back and counting them all up, all in the space of a week? Think about what you're saying.
Wednesdayite are the good guys..
nickswfc
of cause im interested in it, its sheffield football at the end of the day. joking aside i think the takeover will happen which will free the reigns somewhat. as for all this talk of a mega investment in the playing squad i think you all know this is utter garbage. it wont happen. at best the debt will get heavily reduced. as for the worried comment. we wont care matey as we will be playing premiership football next season. lol remember saying that last season, but this time its different. NO NOBSON!!
bladesforlife1889
Skeggy, if you really want to know what the rank and file, hardcore supporters think of your self serving, pompous organisation, take a ballot on that .I think you'll find the vast majority agree that you have been nothing but an added millstone round the clubs neck since Mr Allen made the biggest mistake ever in gifting your shares.
At this vital stage of proceedings, you now have the audacity to draw up a 'list' of questions for the prospective new owners and ask that Sheard attends your kangaroo court of morons to explain why and how he intends to save us from administration and relegation! Forgive me if my tone appears bitter, but you make me sick with whining 'good of the club' bull.Sell the shares and find something else to occupy your time, like making sand castles!
greeny9
not bitter or twisted then greeny
mick66owl
geoff sheard da da da da!!!!
robtheowl
Ah yet another person who thinks that its ok to come on here and insult people. Thats ok Greeny or is it Ecco you carry on, but I must know how brave would you be if you were saying to my face ?
Skeggy Owl
By the way Greeny you really must come up with a more original insult than the "making sand castles" bit. Im just wondering when I should start laughing because that is so pathetic.
Skeggy Owl
My point of view is as valid as any skaggy, and as i said i think many share my opinion.In fact i've suggested a poll of vital members as to their opinion of wednesdayite. As for saying it to your face , is that some sort of threat? Any time mate
greeny9
as someone sid earleir whats gunna happen to the money that wednesdayite get for the shares??
smiggyswfc
now then now then ladies. no need for the johny bravo antics!!
bladesforlife1889
bloody hell for once its not bfl starting the arguments
Barton6435
You know what Greeny, Im going to let you wallow in your supposed perfect world. Yes you are entitled to your opinion, but you know nothing about Wednesdayite whatsoever. By the way I like the mispelling of my name, thats quite funny.
Skeggy Owl
Why couldn't Wednesdayite have had the foresight to have held their ballot prior to a written offer being received , on the question of whether or not to accept ANY reasonable offer for the shares? The club themselves have already made sure the consortium comply with all legal requirements and provide proof of funding. So why must we now wait for the pantomime of the inevitable 'Yes' vote from wednesdayite. It seems that a best case scenario would be Sheard having effective control by the start of the season, by which time every other club will have played their hands in the transfer market, leaving wednesday playing catch up yet again!
greeny9
blades make me laugh, they only come on here to take a break from shagging there sisters.
gudetehowl
Tick tock, tick tock, still silence!
sharpblades
u spend more time on here than on ure site of inbreds??? why??? i really dnt understand it
smiggyswfc
Do Bladesforlife1889 and sharpblades really think anybody is in any way interested in anything they have to say. I would never enter a SUFC forum as I couldn't be bothered wasting my time. Whenever I see those names at the bottom of a comment I just skip past it without even reading , as i'm sure most people do. Maybe they thought that it was a novelty to have United fans on a Wednesday site - but it is actually very tedious. Why don't you visit Uniteds forum. I hear United have the biggest website in the championship - it is in their trophy cabinet.
Radon Barrier
The complex nature of wednesday's shareholding has no doubt put off potential investment in the past and is leading to the current protracted takeover which is taking for ever, I'm in not doubt it will happen by the start of the new season and when it finally happens would like to thank Shead and his consortium for their persistence and patience, lesser men would have given up long before now or not even bothered in the 1st place.
sussexowl
many have stepped up and many have fell. all in the history of swfc not the world wars as you would have expected
mick66owl
I have just read the Star Website, Wednesdayite are now asking to see funds from sheard before balloting members, what a load of BolloXs. Why dont they just ballot and then release the shares when paid in full. What a bunch of publicity seeking tossers
Aston Owl
why don't wednesdayite buy the directors shares, oh sorry cos they expect em for nowt!! seriously, the fact that they are providing any obstacle at all beggars belief, please someone explain to them we are a club in debt that cannot afford to call any shots and the fact we have an investor willing to take on the debt means more to the real fans than any cheap point scoring
dbblue
Well said dbblue ! as i suspect many thousands of fans are of the same opinion of the deluded 'Wednesdayite' who seem to think they are some sort of cromwellian lord protector of Sheffield Wednesday giving power to the people when infact they are nothing but a burden to our club. Barmy Army not New Model Army i say! I have suggested a poll on vital members opinion of wednesdayite and i would be very intrested to see the results, should my suggestion be accepted
greeny9
talking about coming on rival sites it does make me laugh how many wendy fans are going onto the blades site and taking part in the online poll that is running at the moment. practice what you preach piggys. the banter is all fun and harmless at the end of the day and its only you lot that get touchy as always. when you dish it out on a regular basis you have to take it back.
bladesforlife1889
im willing to get along and talk football with you but im sure you lot will be the first to start making snide comments and insults lets see yeh? will start as we mean to go on. feel free to come ont our site and talk footy. the banter is all good as long as we dont go too far. yes i hold my hands up there at times and im sure some of you lot will too. what im saying is enough is enough otherwise we will all be banned. ha ha ok????
bladesforlife1889
You are so right that these forums re here so we can have some playful banter BFL, but I am sorry to say that you get what you ask for when you put up a poll asking fans "where do you think we will finish ?"
Skeggy Owl
perhaps so m8, but it also shows how many wendy fans do go onto the blades site. so you carnt really have a go for us coming on here when you do the same. but like i say enough of the constant jibes it does get boring. will start as we mean to.
bladesforlife1889
You might be one of the few who actually wants to talk about our fantastic game. Cant say the same for Sharpsblade cos he seemed to press the self distruct button the other day and got himself banned for his troubles.
Skeggy Owl
too busy playing with the pigs to get drawn into a serious debate about the negative influence of 'Wednesdayite' on our club ,are you skeggy?
greeny9
just wish things would speed up cos i'm not getting a season ticket until it happens.why can't key's and his numpty's go and support the pigs or leeds and leave us alone,heard pigs have signed two players,that's them having league won by christmas AGAIN
ecco owl
No chance of speeding up , thanks to 'wednesdayite' playing politics!
greeny9
sharpblades is a decent supporter and is very very passionate. we all say things in the heat of the moment and to be fair many of you lot do it often. not finger pointing but it does all get a bit much a times.. anyway back to footy.
ecco owl - theres no point saying if the take over doesnt happen then you arnt getting a season ticket - to me you follow your club through thick and thin, good and bad. thats what a supporters job is. with that sort of attitude you arnt a propper supporter. theres many lads on here that traveled all over the country last season when things looked really bad for you. without them you would have gone down - take the leicester game away as the perfect example. trust me as a blade i know what i'm on about as we have had plenty of lows to last a lifetime - its only recently things have looked very very rosey indeed and we actually could become a decent premiership side now. proof in the pudding this season for us.
bladesforlife1889
stop being impatient greeny & ecco tell mum your nappy needs changing. dont give pigforlife any ammo to fire. allthough he has quite behaved himself. loook pfl a compliment from me thats unusual
mick66owl
Just picked up the Sheffield Star, 'Show us your money ,fans tell Sheard' is the owls story .Who exactly do this set of arse holes think they are ? and why should they be causing any sort of obstuction to ANY sort of takeover. Sell up and F-Off and lets move forward for the first time in 15 years
greeny9
mick, you spend more time bitching with sad pigs than discussing the major issue affecting our club! As for patience, this farce would try anybodys
greeny9
well said greeny,what difference does it make it not wednesdayite's money anyway,forget the ballot,just say yes and give the money to mr laws,then i can get a season ticket while the discount is still on.
ecco owl
Come on guys, at least read a little into what Wednesdayite are about before slagging them off
johnnywalker69
I don't doubt 'Wednesdayites' members good intentions, but the fact remains the organisation has been , and still is, holding back progress. The arrogant, pretentious nature of the leadership is my major issue.
greeny9
greeny - mick is a good loyal supporter, yes i have had my differences with him but he does want whats best for his club at the end of the day just like all supporters. you need to be patient and stop battling against you own kind!!
bladesforlife1889
look mick & johnny answer me one question,is wednesdayite going to get us to the promise land, NO, so let geoff sheard and his backers get on with it,and stop putting obstacles in the way please.
ecco owl
wake up for gods sake you 2. i dont even like wednesdayite or what they stand for but there here with 10% just like allen/addy and hulley who have gone through the same process, what you going to say in 2years time if sheard hasnt delivered. yep go and protest under south stand, i take it you wont have a season ticket then either, PS thanks bfl yes another compliment god we might be able to talk to each other soon about football
mick66owl
mick i've had a season ticket for years,i nearly did'nt renew last year,but give them one more chance,to find the football was 2nd rate,so what do they do put them up £50.i work hard for my money but i'm not throwing it away on garbage.i just think get mr sheard and his backers in to get quality players before the season starts would be a big help for mr laws , so we don't get off to same start as last year.
ecco owl
lol we are passionate about our own clubs at the end of the day m8 and yes we are always going to slightly bitter nevertheless i wont stand back and see loyal supporters who are genuine and love their club get slammed. for what it is worth and i dont know much, this wendyite group seem to be causing all sorts of problems. i see it that you lot NEED to get took over or suffer relegation and administration soon. but look at us we have been in debt more thanwhat you are in and we have come through it now very healthy. sheffield united as a club is run very very well unlike wednesday over the past 10 years or so. all fans should join together for the goodness of THEIR club. wednesdyite just seem to be a group on thie own damanding allsorts!! please greeny9 and ecco dont start slaughtering me as this is just my opinion from what has been doccumented overall.
bladesforlife1889
Owls slagging each other off.. stop it, you're a bloody embarrassment.
Auckland Owl
bloody hell 3 times in a day bfl and you make sense with it as well. yep your running now like we was in the ealry 90,s but too much money spent on crap or average players only ends up one way the sheffield wednesday way.
ecco mate i have been a season ticket holder for 28 years and a supporter in total for 35 yearsmate so dont tell me about crap football. as i say dont like what they stand for but there here with 10% and if all goes well they will have sold it and gave the money back for transfers or whatever. but coming on here abusing other owls is just bang out of order. if you have constuctive comment or constructive criticism then fine. if not then dont bother
mick66owl
Mick I think you would be better talking to a brick wall because what ever you say, you will be wrong.
Skeggy Owl
probably right skeggy . but you have to try dont you. the funny thing is bfl i quite like him now hehehehehe
mick66owl
Oh Im not on about BFL just incase you didnt realise.
Skeggy Owl
I think this debate has exhausted itself for now. There will obviously be little progress in the takeover for the next 3 weeks thanks to our Wednesdayite friends. This is the source of the frustration that many fans , not just a couple, feel. However nothing more will be achieved by slagging each other off ,my views have been well documented above and i stand by them. If the editor is reading 'Any chance of my poll suggestion being accepted?'
greeny9
hey hey less of that mick. lol. in the early 90's you lot were good ok you spent millions on some good players. sinton 2.75m, walker 2.5m, waddle 1.2m, woods, 1.25m that sort of money was a hell of alot and at that time we couldnt afford 250k on a player. money talks and always has done. that sort of money these days would equate in the region of 10m - 15m and only 6 clubs could look at spending that much now in the premiership. it was the di-canio and carbone signings that buggered you up. we have never spent the sort of money not even now that wednesday did in the early 90's. sheff utd have built themselves up slowley over the year to a healthy club which i feel is destined for promotion and good times. i think as hard as it is to admit wednesday should follow in ours footsteps and not expect getting things handed on a plate all the time. personally if a take over was to take place i dont see how substancial amounts could and would be invested into the playing field. debts would be reduced in a big way which would enable the club yo become more competative in the transfer window, but i dont think you should expext huge things like alot of you are stating will happen.
bladesforlife1889
finally a bit of sense my god in a perfect world hey.
gathered that skeggy hehehe
mick66owl
still have nightmares now of chris wabble wanging that goal in at wembley. ha ha the ********!!
bladesforlife1889
still aint been answered, what will wednesdayite do with the funds????????
smiggyswfc
i think its just a wait and see but wanna see the money go into something long term. im sure all will come apparent in the sometime in the near future so for the time being can we stop bickering and all try and get along
Barton6435
you carnt expect to get a mega investement overnight and all of a sudden become a top championship team. look at us to have built ourselves up over the past 8 years and believe me we have suffered. you lot have to be patient and if it happens it happens. i think backers will come into the club to stabalise things and make some funds available as for the maga bucks and a 50m investement what is meant my that. 28m in debt what wipe this completely and then spend 22m on the field of play. what would be in it for him? surely no sane person would do that as there is far too much to lose in such a short space of time.
bladesforlife1889
does anyone get the feeling mr keys is realy reveling in his new found fame? his new statements to the star are ludicrous. we are in no position to make it difficult for potential investors, wednesdayite must accept that they are meant to be working for the fans and it is blatantly obvious the fans do not want wednesdayite... they must sell there shares....
mansfieldowl
to be honnest i dont think to can blame everything on the wednesdayite, ok they have their faults, but dont we all. if i serious investor came in with money on the table and ideal intentions to turn wendy around im positive no one would stand in their say. i dont think people should use wednesdayite as a scape goat and excuse all the time. as a club you ALL wants whats best.
bladesforlife1889
http://www.sheffieldtelegraph.co.uk/sport/Allen-plea-for-39done-and.4254146.jp
theyre gonna **** it up for us.... another close season of scrapping the barrel.
mansfieldowl
Wednesdayite are working for the fans, they're asking for proof the guy has money. Just like Dave Allen has, just like the other directors would. Just like you would, if you were selling your house.
Auckland Owl
i would have the forsight to go down these routes and investigate at an earlier stage. did any1 ever watch reeves and mortimer? i picture wednesdayite to be like those to seaside town councilors, full of self importance and stupid ideas. the man has proved his funds time and time again, hes proved it to dave allen. and a list of questions?! beuracratic redtape.... wednesdayite are killing wednesday
mansfieldowl
Oh my god another one.
Skeggy Owl
plus if we dont get taken over before start of the new season we will be s**t on the new fifa game.... no one wants that!
mansfieldowl
In a word - numpties!
NicNac
And I dont mean Wednesdayite!!!
NicNac
yes skeggy another one ,and there are thousands more beleive me who are so****3d off with it all. The proof has been given to the club, the people who actually have their own money invested, their lawyers, and a firm of respected financial experts. So why the need for wednesdayite to delay anything . Other than their 'gifted' shares what gives them any more right to a say than any other fan ? Why don't we have a ballot of season ticket holders and ask Mr Sheard to come to everybodys house for sunday dinner to show us his wallet?
greeny9
Because it is a LEGAL PROCESS greeny, it is NOT something Wednesdayite are imposing on Sheard, it HAS to be done with share dealings on this scale!
NicNac
Are the 3 weeks for a ballot , list of questions, and attendance of a meeting all LEGAL requirements or Wednesdayite requirements?
greeny9
Exactly NicNac, i was just about to write the exact same thing!
greeny9 and co who are slagging wednesdayite off, please read a little into wednesdayite so you can fully understand what they are about, then you are more than welcome to share your opinions with us
johnnywalker69
their LEGAL requirements greeny9, 3 weeks HAS to be given so that all wednesdayite members can cast their vote
johnnywalker69
I've been on the Wednesdayite website ,read what they're all about, and i'm not changing my opinion that they are the worst thing to happen to this club since relegation from the premiership!
greeny9
Then i guess democracy doesnt work!
johnnywalker69
How many members does Wednesdayite have?
greeny9
Just been on the website, and it seems about 1000 members , i estimate there to be around 50,000 wednesday fans ( before the pigs start commenting i'd say there were a similar number of them even though neither clubs average gate reflects this) So this equates to around 2% of the fan base being represented by Wednesdayite , that my friend is not democracy!!
greeny9
it would appear that the majority of wednesdayite members seem to be a little to wrapped up in their own self righteous, beuractic bulls**t to be able to see the big picture. mr sheard has proved himself, wednesdayite are supposed to be looking after the fans interests but seem only to be serving their own. please dont ruin our chance for a new start by hanging on to your tenuous grip of power. lets not forget you where gifted the shares, you have not earnt the shares, you did not buy the shares, the shares were a show of good will from mr allen... apparently a very big mistake
mansfieldowl
So, if Dave Allen has asked for proof of funding (which could've been asked for weeks ago by him) and the current board have asked for proof of funding (which happened god knows when), why shouldn't Wednesdayite, when they hold the same amount of shares? Some of you baffle me, you really do. And no greeny, the 3 weeks for a ballot, the list of questions and the meeting are not legal requirements, but Sheard has agreed to them ALL, so why would they be holding the takeover up AT ALL???!!!
NicNac
A very big mistake on DA's part. I want this whole affair sorted as soon as possible just as much as everyone else does. However I understand that there are legal aspects as to why it takes so long for the ballot to be completed. Im not looking to argue with anyone because quite frankly I cant be arsed anymore, but why are Wednesdayite holding it up ?
Skeggy Owl
I think there are certain legal aspects to the setting up of the ballot Nic.
Skeggy Owl
All credit to Sheard, and his consortiums obvious commitment to this takeover, which is the only good thing i can take from the situation. As for wednesdayites rights, they were artificallly created and as i have stated previously do not represent anything like a majority of fans. If the Club has proof ,then that's good enough for me.If the doctor told me i had a broken leg ,i wouldn't go to the chemist for a second opinion. Wednesdayites continued involvement is totally unnecessary , they are not protecting us from anything, just extending the agony
greeny9
I agree Skegg, most probably stuff I don't understand let alone know :) But greeny's blatant disregard for the facts is just staggering!
NicNac
disregard for facts! ,you, and i quote 'most probably don't understand' .What about you and the rest of wednesdayite and their blatant disregard for the opinions of every other wednesday fan not in their pompous minority group
greeny9
god i would have hated to be behind him when they gave brains out. time to stop explaining skeg and nic you have won a million pounds you will get it in 3weeks - 1week to get the cash in - 1 week to verify you and your address and 1week for postage and packing, bet they still would stamp there feet and say but i want now.
look at the bigger picture guys its happening and soon.
mick66owl
Please Ed get my opinion poll posted, and lets see what everybody really thinks!
greeny9
If your going to revert to playground insults mick feck off and play with your new lover pigforlife. I fully understand the current situation thank you very much and believe every one of my previous comments and i'm convinced YOU are in a minority!!
greeny9
Just refresh my memory Greeny as to what you want the poll to be about because I cant be arsed to find where it is in the thread.
Skeggy Owl
personal insults very childish. as i said iam not a wednesdayite member and dont like what they stand for but that doesnt give me a right to insult people personally. so dont come on here insulting me or others. if you understand the current situation why are you slinging mud. if geoff sheard reads what do you think he must think of SHEFFIELD WEDNESDAY FANS .
mick66owl
what a hypocrite !
greeny9
LAST WORD ON IT FOR ME,
GROW bloody up.
dont think you will be happy whatever.
mick66owl
I was talking about Wednesdayite being a democracy in itself greeny9, which it is. 1,000 (or probably alot more since DA ramblings last year!) Wednesday fans all having a voice cannot be a bad thing. If you were that concerned about how Wednesdayite was run, why didnt you pay £10 and join? then you would have had a voice
johnnywalker69
Is this the longest running argument ever on these pages? 110 comments and counting!
greeny9
TEAMtalk.com are reporting 'Takeover in doubt ' wednesdayite lawyers have concerns (the clubs own lawyers don't) over the validity of the offer! No further comment required. I can here pigforlife snorting with laughter from here. Feck this i'm off to the boozer
greeny9
you right greenypig9. ha ha must admit mick that comment even made me smile. witty witty old lad. nice 1 ha ha
bladesforlife1889
Let me see, Wednesdayite, Addy and Hulley haven't yet agreed to sell, as far as we know, so this makes Wednesdayite the villains? Why don't all the naysayers go and support someone else with a nice stable monopoly in charge... Manchester City, perhaps? Maybe that's the kind of regime you want at S6. It's the kind we'd get if we all followed your suggestions. Or United perhaps, so we could be 500 million in debt, instead of 30 million? If Wednesdayite's lawyers need information to find out the bid is legal (not 'valid' greeny, legal), let them ask for that information.
Auckland Owl
a quick solution to all this,is wednesdayite give your shares back to dave allen, let him sell them,then no one can blame them,no ballot needed, easy.
ecco owl
Errr... there'd have to be a ballot to vote to give the shares back. The money would then go to DA instead of the club. Think about it, ecco.
Auckland Owl
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SwallownestOwl
I'm really surprised that there's so many Wednesday fans out there who fail to grasp the concept of Wednesdayite! Arrrrggggh!
johnnywalker69
Allen and the other directors wouldnt be willing to sell if Sheard didnt have the funds in place so why do wednesdayite question it. Im with you Greeny on this one
WorksopsNumber1
Because it's a legal procedure WorksopsNumber1, they have to ask for proof of funding
johnnywalker69
the concept of wednesdayite is that if you didn't like or agree with dave allen then you joined, his mistake of trying to appease them has bitten him on the bum, please don't try and tell me they have the best interests of wednesday fans at heart as i truly believe that they are of one opinion, and that is to try and bully and disrupt at every available opportunity, the shares have sent them power mad
dbblue
i said it earlier... wednesdayite are trying to flex their muscles - make out they are in charge - the moral guardians of the club, instead of them taking the high ground, why dont they listen to the majority of fans... the very people they in theory are working for... and **** off and ruin a club like say... stockport, brentford or notts county (all owned by fans and all at there lowest point for many years) sell your shares, in fairness there not even really yours to sell are they.
mansfieldowl@home
"*** off and ruin a club like say... stockport," ..... er Stockport just got promoted to L1 and have a very productive conveyer belt of young talent and I think are seeing their best gates in 5+ years. So ruination eh?
Ra-Ra-Roger
Arrrgggghhh! Are you reading all this Auckland, Mick66 and NicNac? Some people completely baffle me!!
johnnywalker69
hang on rararoger less then ten years ago stockport where fighting for a division 1 (now championship) play off place... so promotion from league two looks abit sh** but hey... brentford and notts county are doin a lot better, probably best put things in perspective. please, i beg you, dont ruin yet another chance for wednesday to take a step forward, listen to the fans and sell your shares... WEEDNESDAYITE YOU ARE NOT WANTED
mansfieldowl@home
How many is that now that are blaming Wednesdayite for things taking so long ? There are that many that I cant be arsed to count, and to be frank its getting a bit boring. If you want to blame anyone, blame Dave Allen cause it was his fault that he gave Wednesdayite the shares in the first place.
Skeggy Owl
Another week passes and still no takeover....your the laughing stock of football right now and the third best team in Sheffield behind the millers!
sharpblades
Sharp you really are getting boring now. You can say what you want but we will always know that you are a dick.
Skeggy Owl
I don't see how the takeover has made us the laughing stock of football. I would imagine Birmingham wish they had been a bit more careful with Carson Yeung. The most embarrassing takeover I remember was when Sam Hasemi tried to takeover United in 1990. So ashamed was he to have failed in what at the time must have beena simple task that, to hide his identity, he had a sex change. He / she is now called Samantha Kane. Which do you think is the most embarrassing Sharpblades? Answers in words of one syllable as I have been monitoring your comments and sharpblade clearly isn't the sharpest tool in the box. When you say we are the third best team in sheffield behind rotherham - do you mean rotherham are top. How can they be better than us if they are 2 divisions lower. Please explain sharpblade.
Radon Barrier
greeny: "disregard for facts! ,you, and i quote 'most probably don't understand' .What about you and the rest of wednesdayite and their blatant disregard for the opinions of every other wednesday fan not in their pompous minority group" Before you go tarring everyone with the same brush, which is all you seem capale of intelligence wise, I am not a member of Wednesdayite! In what way have Wednesdayite ever done anything to come across as pompous? I don't mind people having their own opinion, they're entitled to it, but I would like a reasoned discussion with proof of what you are trying to claim. Anyone who has any problem with what they think Wednesdayite stand for, and what they are trying to do for the club and their role in this takeover, please feel free to come onto the forum, make a post and I will try and respond in the appropriate manner. That's one thing greeny, funny how we never see you on the forum, only on the articles! Failing, that, if you don't want your views aired publicly, then send me a PM!
NicNac
Oh, and yes, of course I don't understand the process, I'm not a bllomin lawyer or an accountant so I don't have the first clue about the legalities of such a deal, and I would guess neither do you greeny. And that is the whole point. Wednesdayite are seeking help and advice from another party when they need it. And why the heck shouldn't they? DA, KA and GH will have done/ will do exactly the same, so why shouldn't Wednesdayite?!
NicNac
Now the organisation exists, they have limited choices as to what they can do, as they must work in the intrests of their members. So the course of action they are currently pursuing is understandable and unavoidable. The tone of my previous comments may have been a bit harsh and influenced by the anger and frustration of another takeover bid seemingly set to fail, and i don't doubt that wednesdayite members intentions are good. However my main problem with wednesdayite, is that a relatively small group with artificially created power ( the 'gifted' shares) is now for the second time seemingly destroying a takeover. The exact reasons are vauge to say the least, so it is hard to expand on the debate.If the individuals with their own money tied up in the club( DA KA GH), and assumingly their legal representatives are happy then that for me should be enough. I understand that the genie of wednesdayite can't now be put back in the bottle and we must all now wait for the ballot to be agreed upon and undertaken.
greeny9
Please read Darryl Key's comments on the thread in the forum, I think it will answer msot of your questiions greeny. Can I just ask, what evidence you have that wednesdayite are 'destroying' the takeover, and indeed 'destroyed' the first supposed takeover attempt?
NicNac
I'm not suggesting that there is some sort of deliberate atempt to destroy the takeover, but the insistance on 'any' conditions which appear to be above and beyond those which the other shareholders have requested, seems to me uneccessary. I understand that this situation will not be resolved until wednesdayite feel they have had their questions answered . It is just my and many others feeling that a takeover of any sort would be preferable to the current dire situation and that we as a club are in no position to call the shots.
greeny9
Are you going to answer the second part of Nic's question Greeny ?
Skeggy Owl
Wednesdayite are not imposing any conditions. They sent a list of questions, of which GS and his backers were free to answer non/all/some as many as they liked. He has apparently replied with answers to most of the questions. Thye were not conditions! The only other 'issue' would be the fact that Wednesdayite will want the sale of their shares to be part of a takeover - and not just giving GS 10% and nothing more. This wouldn't solve anything, and just leave Wednesday in the same situation. So I ask again, how are Wednesdayite destroying this takeover? And did they supposedly do it for the Gregg deal, which is what I am presuming you are referring to?
NicNac
We all know Nic, or at least most of us do, that there was only one person at the time laying the blame at Wednesdayite's feet. Gregg didnt even enter into discussions with Wednesdayite at all so how anyone could blame them is beyond me.
Skeggy Owl
They ,by their mere existance prevented the gregg deal going through ( if i remember correctly both allen and gregg stated as such) and now i assume that if they didn't exist, then the final hurdle they a providing would not be there, and a takeover in theory could have already been achieved. As i have already said , i don't doubt the good intentions, and in an ideal world fans of all clubs should have a voice, but i feel wednesdayite are trying to protect the club from a non exsistant villian. The idea that a consortium would spend so much time and effort to aquire just a 10% holding in a financially stricken club like wednesday and not complete a full takeover seems ludicrous to me.What would be the motive of such a move? This argument has reached a brick wall because wednesdayite DO exist and have a commitment and responsabilty to do exactly what they are doing, it does not mean i have to like it.
greeny9
"( if i remember correctly both allen and gregg stated as such)" Would this be the sam Dave Allen who is suing fans of the club? "and now i assume that if they didn't exist, then the final hurdle they a providing would not be there". What hurdle???!!!! As far as we have heard, DA has received an offer but we haven't heard anything from Keith Addy or Geoff Hulley, so how the heck can you be so sure it's Wednesdayite that are providing a hurdle?! They didn't seek out to acquire the 10%, it was gifted to them (or the old Owls Trust at least) by our very own DA, so quite how htye spent so much effort trying to acquire them I simply don't know what you are on about!
NicNac
I'm refering to the time and effort being used by Geoff Sheard and his consortium , and that i don't see any motive in Sheards consortium just trying to aquire wednesdayites 10 % and not completing a full takeover,as has been implied by wednesdayite with their 'shuffling the deckchairs' quote.
greeny9
Ok, well in that then you are correct. For once... Have you heard Geoff Sheard's interview where he says he hasn't heard from Addy, Hulley is away, and a deal has been agreed in principle with Allen and Wednesdayite. Please inform me where you think the hurdle is. Thanks.
NicNac
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